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	<description>Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.</description>
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		<title>By: On being &#8220;device agnostic&#8221; &#171; William S. Vincent</title>
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		<dc:creator>On being &#8220;device agnostic&#8221; &#171; William S. Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Feb 2010 19:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at The New Sleakness there is a good overview of the changes in production at major houses. This holds true at every [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Staying Ahead of the Curve in Publishing &#124; Digital Book World</title>
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		<dc:creator>Staying Ahead of the Curve in Publishing &#124; Digital Book World</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 17:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Andrew Malkin at Publishing Perspectives, the other from Tor.com&#8217;s Pablo Defendini at The New Sleekness. Despite a good 15 years, give or take, separating the three of us (I&#8217;m declaring Andrew the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Andrew Malkin at Publishing Perspectives, the other from Tor.com&#8217;s Pablo Defendini at The New Sleekness. Despite a good 15 years, give or take, separating the three of us (I&#8217;m declaring Andrew the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I spent most of the &#039;90s trying to convince authors to use SGML, then XML...finally gave up. I was thinking too much like a programmer/systems analyst at the time. Most authors are not going to use XML (unless they write for a niche publisher in a technical field). Forget about it. Choose the right battle to fight. Better to focus on the in-house workflow, which is manageable. I like the concept of a Word template that translates well to XML for in-house use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spent most of the &#8217;90s trying to convince authors to use SGML, then XML&#8230;finally gave up. I was thinking too much like a programmer/systems analyst at the time. Most authors are not going to use XML (unless they write for a niche publisher in a technical field). Forget about it. Choose the right battle to fight. Better to focus on the in-house workflow, which is manageable. I like the concept of a Word template that translates well to XML for in-house use.</p>
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		<title>By: From good-enough to fit-like-a-glove e-books &#124; Inchiostro elettrico</title>
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		<dc:creator>From good-enough to fit-like-a-glove e-books &#124; Inchiostro elettrico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 17:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] great post by Pablo Defendini spaked some thoughts on the production in publishing and the changes it will (well, should) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Dick Margulis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick Margulis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a middle ground between manual typewriter in a cabin in the woods and authors originating mss. in standards-compliant XML. I&#039;m with Rebecca on the inability of authors to write a parseable English sentence without outside assistance, let alone conceptualizing their pearls in terms of how they fit into a markup language&#039;s conceits. But what they do seem to be able to do a half-assed job of is using a Word template furnished by the publisher. Once the copyeditor is done, the now rules-compliant ms. can be the input to an XML-based processing chain, and all is well with the world.

I edit for one major publisher who has standardized on this process, and I have to say it works pretty well. Authors are shielded from markup languages; editors are shielded from the chaos of unformatted mss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a middle ground between manual typewriter in a cabin in the woods and authors originating mss. in standards-compliant XML. I&#8217;m with Rebecca on the inability of authors to write a parseable English sentence without outside assistance, let alone conceptualizing their pearls in terms of how they fit into a markup language&#8217;s conceits. But what they do seem to be able to do a half-assed job of is using a Word template furnished by the publisher. Once the copyeditor is done, the now rules-compliant ms. can be the input to an XML-based processing chain, and all is well with the world.</p>
<p>I edit for one major publisher who has standardized on this process, and I have to say it works pretty well. Authors are shielded from markup languages; editors are shielded from the chaos of unformatted mss.</p>
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		<title>By: Workflow in the House &#124; The Casual Optimist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Workflow in the House &#124; The Casual Optimist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] (if somewhat snarky) post this week by Pablo Defendini, producer and blogger at Tor.com, at The New Sleekness: [B]ig publishers outsource a large part of these services&#8230; They’ve found that cutting out [...]</description>
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		<title>By: India</title>
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		<dc:creator>India</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 19:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most authors don&#039;t seem to know how to use MS Word properly, either, yet they do keep trying . . .

It seems like there&#039;s an opportunity here for someone to make an idiot-proof word processor that makes semantic markup easy to understand and apply, discourages unhelpful wysiwyg styling, has built-in version control with a change-tracking and commenting interface for editors, robust citation management (with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zotero.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Zotero&lt;/a&gt; integration) so that editing notes and bibliographies becomes less of a nightmare, and outputs clean XML. Lightweight, suitable to run on a netbook or iPad. Designed for long-document production, not for creating miscellaneous office documents.

So, uh, could you get on that, you programmer people?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most authors don&#8217;t seem to know how to use MS Word properly, either, yet they do keep trying . . .</p>
<p>It seems like there&#8217;s an opportunity here for someone to make an idiot-proof word processor that makes semantic markup easy to understand and apply, discourages unhelpful wysiwyg styling, has built-in version control with a change-tracking and commenting interface for editors, robust citation management (with <a href="http://www.zotero.org/" rel="nofollow">Zotero</a> integration) so that editing notes and bibliographies becomes less of a nightmare, and outputs clean XML. Lightweight, suitable to run on a netbook or iPad. Designed for long-document production, not for creating miscellaneous office documents.</p>
<p>So, uh, could you get on that, you programmer people?</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having copyedited hundreds of now-published manuscripts in virtually every trade genre, there is no way I would trust authors to produce a standards-compliant XML file. These people generally don&#039;t know how to use a semicolon correctly :) There&#039;s no reason XML markup can&#039;t be combined with copyediting. Let the authors create. Leave the technical details to the technical people = better results all around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having copyedited hundreds of now-published manuscripts in virtually every trade genre, there is no way I would trust authors to produce a standards-compliant XML file. These people generally don&#8217;t know how to use a semicolon correctly <img src='http://www.thenewsleekness.com/masterkontrol-unicorn/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  There&#8217;s no reason XML markup can&#8217;t be combined with copyediting. Let the authors create. Leave the technical details to the technical people = better results all around.</p>
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		<title>By: Stefano</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stefano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 15:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great, great post. 

@Ryan Chapman: if I may build a bit on Pablo&#039;s comment, people will pay money for your production skills if that means that your production skills let them have the best possible reading experience for their favourite reading device (be it a paperback, a kindle, an iPhone, a next-big-thing, ...), and XML simplifies this a lot.

...although I must agree that it will not be easy to have authors shift to XML.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great, great post. </p>
<p>@Ryan Chapman: if I may build a bit on Pablo&#8217;s comment, people will pay money for your production skills if that means that your production skills let them have the best possible reading experience for their favourite reading device (be it a paperback, a kindle, an iPhone, a next-big-thing, &#8230;), and XML simplifies this a lot.</p>
<p>&#8230;although I must agree that it will not be easy to have authors shift to XML.</p>
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		<title>By: Pablo Defendini</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pablo Defendini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docbook&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DocBook&lt;/a&gt;, or even better, &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTBook&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;DTBook&lt;/a&gt;, I should think (certainly not whatever crap markup Office or Pages spews forth). But that&#039;s way beyond the scope of this post, really. It&#039;s up to production departments to do their homework and figure this stuff out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Docbook" rel="nofollow">DocBook</a>, or even better, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTBook" rel="nofollow">DTBook</a>, I should think (certainly not whatever crap markup Office or Pages spews forth). But that&#8217;s way beyond the scope of this post, really. It&#8217;s up to production departments to do their homework and figure this stuff out.</p>
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